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Thanks Joseph!

At wherever appropriate address Joe Beck's identifiability issue with BKT?

Herb Simon was red-green colorblind and complained about UIs that relied solely on color to distinguish things.

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Gray and blue

So far so good!

Is Zoom unstable for others or just me?

just you

Mine is fine

Thanks. Karma for bragging about being a human bug magnet ;-).

I like this concrete hypothetical: lower half students (in terms of incoming k) need three times the practice as upper half… it speaks volumes

Would there be confounding effect from KCs? I.e., (some) KC explains away the variance of learning rates of students?

For example, some harder KCs only have faster students?

depends on how much time they put?

maybe he worked harder =>

Could depend on practice, tot

maybe better students practiced with more "optimal" activities?

interestingly, industriousness is a better predictor of academic success than IQ

This comports with research from the social sciences about the enabling conditions of academic success-- it's about whether students are given the tools for success (not some innate quality)

Does students’ interest relate to the rate of learning and the effort they put in?

does this mean people should *try* to learn everything?

In your analogue from Calculus to language learning: Good switch from informal learning to implicit learning (which was in an earlier draft of your paper)

Is it correct to consider all opportunities as equal?

How it agrees with zone of proximal development, there is best time for everything, not every time is best..

+1 Peter

Do strategies to support effort need to be human? (Can a chat bot or other tech substitute effectively? And for what learner populations?)

Yep

Tech might be better if it provides those opps better, more easily

Interesting! Let’s look at the data.

Thanks for the talk Ken!

Great presentation Kem

Thanks Ken!! Great talk!

Thanks Ken, great presentation!

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thanks for this very interesting presentation!

yes, thanks for the presentation and the opportunity to join you :)

good insights. thanks...

Is there a way to get the recorded talk ?